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Old Software IS Viable

Many business information system projects are motivated on the basis that the existing systems are obsolete.  This article challenges that argument with regard to a significant number of systems and presents information that will enable executives and managers to take a pragmatic view of this debate

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One of the drivers of new systems in business today is replacement of “ageing” systems.  Problem is that software does NOT grow old, only the programmers do and new programmers can be trained.

Legitimate software obsolescence is driven by genuinely obsolete hardware coupled to software that is associated with the operating environment for that hardware for which there is NO effective port to new systems, or badly maintained software – which frequently comes about because of a CIO who decides to kill the system by NOT investing in people and maintenance.  The latter case can be remediated

There ARE situations in which legacy software can have its life extended considerably.  This article discusses this.  Following are some key points:

1.  Instructions for the bricklayer

Source code is “instructions for the bricklayer” – the English like language is translated by the compiler into binary code and processor and device addresses – in this respect the compiler is like a bricklayer simply following instructions to generate the executable code.

2.  Programming language ONLY for the programmer

Programming languages are simply there for the convenience of the programmers so that they can write more complex and elaborate software applications.

To say that a language is obsolete is to say that the people who knew how to program in that language are either all dead or have moved on to other languages.  Insofar that in even the oldest languages there are still programmers alive the question then becomes one of providing the right financial incentive to bring old programmers back from other languages.

Alternatively, NOTHING prevents you for training young programmers on old languages.  The world is full of factories with old machines that are maintained by technicians and mechanics who have been trained up on equipment that was manufactured before they were born.  There is NO reason NOT to do this with software.

3.  Development languages are a fashion industry

Application development languages have historically progressed to a point and then been superseded by new languages that have been written to perform different functions, but to a point it is a fashion business.  It is my view that this trend is coming to an end.  The current mainstream languages will probably be around for a very long time.

In some cases of really leading edge technology applications there MAY be real benefit moving to a new language, BUT in the case of core mundane operational business information systems there is generally little or NO benefit.  Remember always that you can develop new components with a new language and leave the existing components in the old language.  Once they are compiled the computer does NOT know the difference.

4.  Software NEVER wears out

Software NEVER wears out, it has NO moving parts.  The older languages died out because the computer processors died -- that does NOT happen anymore.

5.  Once software works it always works

Once software works it ALWAYS works unless some human being does something that stops it working – either as an act of incompetence, negligence or sabotage.

6.  Mainstream legacy languages remain valid

Mainstream older languages, such as Cobol in particular, remain valid because compilers have been ported to run on modern processors so barring minor conversion idiosyncrasies old code will work perfectly well on modern computers.  See “COBOL Still Used More Than Google”.

7.  Once compiled the processor is ignorant of the language

It is vital to be aware that once compiled the processor does NOT know whether it is running 30 year old Cobol or the latest “dot net” or whatever language.  The language is PURELY for the human beings who write the program.

8.  “Obsolete” is therefore most frequently a fashion statement

“Obsolete” is therefore most frequently entirely a fashion statement, the developers are still around and many will happily work on old code for a fair wage.  Many of the old guard prefer the older languages because they are leaner and more efficient.

9.  It is NOT necessary to replace the entire application

Note that there is NO need for all parts of a software application to be written in the same language.  If you have an elderly Cobol suite of software and you want a pretty web front end interface in the latest language, NOTHING stops you writing the new front end in that language and writing an interface to the database of the old application or writing an interface to feed data files from the old application to the new database.

There are tools specifically for that purpose such as “Advantage Data Transformer”.

10. The 80:20 Phenomenon

Note also that as with most things in life, of the order of 80% of the software that is used in a business does NOT change for years.  This can remain in your legacy language.  Just replace the 20% of the software where there REALLY ARE benefits f

rom upgrading.  The minute you move away from a mind-set that says that you MUST replace the ENTIRE solution interesting possibilities open up.


11. Mainstream databases are still in existence

Some of the older databases HAVE died out and this MAY legitimately drive replacement but in MANY cases there is a solution and some mainstream databases that have faded from the limelight but are still out there and supported, such as DB2 and Informix -- you just have to look. 

Again, in many cases the problem is fashion NOT technology obsolescence.

12. The ONLY limitation is the ingenuity of the developers (and their willingness)

In many (most?) cases the limitations with regard to legacy software relate to the ingenuity of the developers and managers and their willingness to find solutions.

It is TOO easy to tell management that the old systems are obsolete because you have a career need to learn a new language so that you are more marketable and can earn a higher salary, or just because it is an adrenalin rush to learn something new.  Those are NOT valid reasons.

Bottom line is that probably 90% of the legacy application out there CAN be maintained and used indefinitely and can be extended by bringing in selected modern components.

It is also so that if you look at the REAL costs of implementing and operating the major ERP and related products and apply a percentage of that cost to maintaining your existing systems you will be very well off.  There may WELL be a case for a project to remediate and strengthen your existing systems and extend them to better support your current and future strategic position.

Note also that, given the massive failures that are occurring, the business risks associated with progressively and incrementally remediating and enhancing your existing systems are MASSIVELY lower.

Dr James A Robertson PrEng

11 September 2014

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COBOL – old software CAN be retained (with reference to Bridgestone)

The Bridgestone project commenced with a fundamentally unsound motivation, existing systems were written in COBOL and therefore needed to be replaced.


Note that the existing systems were working fine, they worked so well that Bridgestone had tens of millions of dollars to pour into their massive new systems project and still remained in business.


“But COBOL is obsolete” I hear you say.




Interestingly, a report dated 23 June 2014 by Cameron Philipp-Edmonds headlined “COBOL Still used more than Google” reports that estimates indicate that there are 200 times more COBOL transactions processed daily than there are Google searches!


See http://www.techwell.com/2014/06/COBOL-still-used-more-google




Try searching on Google for “COBOL Compiler” in quotes – an exact match – Google returns 93,600 results.


Fact is that COBOL is FAR from dead!


In fact, there is NO valid technical reason why you cannot keep your existing COBOL programs running for ever.



The programming language is for the people NOT the computer

COBOL is a programming language like any other.  It works by offering an English-like language that contains a wide vocabulary of instructions each one of which instructs the computer to perform an EXACT sequence of steps.  For a given instruction the response of the computer is always entirely predictably the same and WILL ALWAYS be the same – UNLESS you move the software to another COBOL Compiler in which case there may be some changes in nuance.  But those issues are always amenable to resolution so that you CAN continue – the lesson is to do detailed research in the event that you have to migrate your COBOL to another compiler running on a different hardware platform.


Note that once the source code (the English instructions) is compiled the computer has NO knowledge of where the binary strings that it executes came from.  To the computer COBOL looks identical to the latest and greatest most modern language.


A programming language is PURELY there for the developer, to make their lives easier instead of flipping front panel switches.  The ONLY thing that dies out with an old language is the human beings who know how to use it and there is NOT a programming language on earth today that is so old that any significant number of developers HAVE died off.  So for ANY mainstream old language, of which COBOL is surely the leader, there are very substantial numbers of human beings who once programmed in it and who with the right financial incentive will program in it again.



A world full of old buildings, factories, machines, etc


And THAT is, in fact NOT the point.


We live in a world with numerous buildings, roads, railway systems, factories, etc that are decades and even centuries old.  We do NOT demolish them because the people who originally maintained them have moved on or died, we train new people to maintain them.  Your ability to maintain your COBOL applications is ENTIRELY a function of your willingness to employ staff to maintain them.


“But my CIO says COBOL is obsolete” – harsh reality, a LOT of IT people thrive on the thrill of NEW so when your CIO says that COBOL is obsolete, that is, in narrow terms correct BUT it really means “I cannot be bothered to make the effort to maintain it and to hire and train up new people in order to keep it going”.  Fundamentally “COBOL is obsolete” is an IT Department empire building statement!


It will ALWAYS cost you less to maintain your existing applications than to replace them.



You can bolt on or build NEW software ALONGSIDE your COBOL applications


There is an ADDED TWIST.  There is absolutely NOTHING that prevents you building NEW software alongside your COBOL or other “obsolete” software.  Leave the COBOL or other old software doing what it has done reliably and dependably for the last thirty years – the time that it has taken your company to become so profitable using the software that you can afford the luxury of embarking on a big budget new system project.


If you need a web interface, well then write a web interface in whatever modern language takes your fancy.  If you want an all singing all dancing data warehouse then do it, there are plenty of tools that will load your data from you old databases to new ones.


This is a lengthy subject but enough for now, I hope that I have made my point?  See “Old Software IS Viable” for more information.



Bridgestone did NOT “HAVE” to replace their COBOL software

The brutal truth is that it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY that Bridgestone HAD ti replace their COBOL software, they could have spent a few million dollars, ported to a new compiler and new hardware, fixed the glitches and carried on for as long as they wanted.


But, I hear you cry, the new technology brings with it all sorts of competitive opportunities!


Bridgestone bought SAP.


Does it, really?


I doubt that Gary Garfield will agree with you.


Correctly implemented with a strong strategic focus an integrated business information system CAN deliver dramatic benefit – see my article “Attributes of a HIGH VALUE solution”.


BUT the value lies in the manner in which you configure and use the software NOT in all the fancy gimmickry that are the rage in the industry today!


The value lies in a high value business case NOT a desperate “we HAVE to change because our system is obsolete” – you do NOT have to be a victim of technology obsolescence – you CAN take charge and make informed business decisions in this area, like any other.


Note that for the same reasons there CANNOT have been an immovable deadline with regard to Bridgestone moving off its legacy systems.  I am quite sure that today Gary Garfield will look back and see that no matter WHAT the motivation he could NOT actually afford to switch off his old systems when he did.  But someone misrepresented the situation to him and his executive team.


Be interested to know who because whoever was responsible for the advice that Bridgestone HAD to change over THEN is the person who is ACTUALLY culpable with regard to what followed.


That said, there IS a case for new systems when the old systems are ragged and have not been maintained and NOT kept up with the business.  BUT NOT at any cost.


See the Bridgestone article for more information on that particular situation.



A different spin – SAP ABAP is similar to COBOL!

Interesting to note that Bridgestone moved to SAP with a major SAP development investment that gave huge problems.


Interestingly Wikipedia reports that SAP’s ABAP (Advanced Business Application Programming) language is “somewhat similar to COBOL”!


So, because COBOL is obsolete we move to SAP which uses a language similar to COBOL?


I wonder if the Bridgestone CEO was advised of this before he signed the order for SAP?



Conclusion – it is assumed you DO have a valid case to move

My fundamental point is that you should NOT scrap your old systems for the wrong reasons move because you have evaluated the situation and concluded that there IS a strong high value business case that supports the decision to move.


Do NOT become a victim of IT hype and ONLY undertake the project because you have a clear BUSINESS understanding of the value you will create and how the BUSINESS will achieve that outcome!


This website is based on the assumption that you DO have a sound business case for moving to new technology and want to do this with minimum risk and maximum value add.

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Table of Contents


About Dr James A Robertson PrEng -- The Business Systems Doctor -- and Other Topics

Catalogue of Major Business Information System Failures

About the Engineering Approach

James Robertson's Value Add

Attributes of a HIGH VALUE solution

Recognizing Business System Failure

The Critical Human Foundation

Old Software IS Viable

From South Africa

Competencies of Dr James A Robertson PrEng

About Professor Malcolm McDonald

Table of Contents

About my relationship with the Almighty Creator, Yah the Eternally Self-Existing

Comments relating to the Business Systems Industry and other topics

Testimonials and other positive material regarding James Robertson

Reference Articles

List of Articles

Article Catalogue

Achieving High Value Business Information System outcomes

Executive Custody -- What is it and HOW do you get it?

The REAL Issues in Integrated Business Information System Success

Part 1: Introduction

Part 2 -- Mythology and Lack of Executive Custody

Part 3 – Strategic Alignment and Precision Configuration

Why your ERP is NOT delivering and HOW to FIX it

IT Project Management

Pulse Measurement

CEO Anthony Lee Comments on his experience of the Pulse Measurement

No Charge Guarantee on the Pulse Measurement Service

Examples of Pulse Measurement Outcomes

Critical questions regarding the Pulse Measurement™

The Pulse Measurement Workflow

The Critical Factors for Business System (ERP+) Investment Success in the Pulse Measurement

Indicative Pulse Measurement Durations

What is a JAR&A Pulse Measurement?

Survival of the fittest – why it makes sense to measure the pulse of your business

Examples of Pulse Measurement Outcomes over 24 years

Sample Pulse Measurement Reports


Strategic Essence: The Missing Link in Business Information Systems

Strategic Essence: Overview

Strategic Essence: Part 1 -- Strategy Defined

Strategic Essence: Part 2 -- Differentiation

Strategic Essence: Part 3 -- The Essence IS Different

Strategic Essence: Part 4 -- The Essence should be the Point of Departure

Strategic Essence: Part 5 -- Discovering Strategic Essence

Strategy -- the Essence of the Business: What is it and how do you develop actionable strategic plans?

Simple Steps to Increase the Strategic Value of your ERP Investment

Free Strategic Snapshot Toolset and Manual

A strategy focused planning system beyond traditional budgeting

Tough IT and ERP Procurement and Contracting that Works

Robust Business Systems Procurement

Part 1 -- Introduction

Part 2 -- Bill of Services, Laboratory, Go-live Certificate, etc

Part 3 -- Executive Engagement, Bid Compliance, Adjudication and other matters

Procurement Documents

Guidance and Advisory Services

The Art of Project Leadership

Why Regular Communication with the CEO is Vital

The Business Simulation Laboratory

Precision Configuration and Strategic Business Information Architecture

Precision Configuration based on Strategic Engineered Precision Taxonomies

The JAR&A Cubic Business Model

Highly Structured Strategic Chart of Accounts -- a Vital Element of your Corporate Information Arsenal

The Product Catalogue -- an Essential Element of any Precision Configuration

Attributes -- answers to the questions you have NOT yet thought to ask

Case Studies of Notably Successful Projects with high value Precision Configuration

092 Doing things differently and better -- ASCO Case Study 2-- BPM Summit 2013

088 Strategic ERP Invesment -- ASCO Case Study -- Service Management Conference and Exhibition Africa

026 Information Architecture and Design of FIS for Rennies Group -- Financial Information Systems Conf

018 CRM Risk Control: Designing and Implementing an Integrated Risk Mgmt Sys -- Integrated Risk Mgmt Conf

011 V3 Consulting Eng: Benefits of MIS to Professional Practice -- SAICE 15th Ann Conf on Computers in Civil Eng

Strategically Enriching your Business Information Systems

Part 1 -- Introduction

Part 2 -- Principles of Data Engineering

Part 3 -- Steps in applying these recommendations

Simple Steps to increase the strategic information value yield from your Business Systems Investment

The Full JAR&A Taxonomy Manual

Part 1: Introduction, Problem Statement, Definitions and Examples

Part 2: Why Use JAR&A, Required Knowledge and Experience, Cubic Business Model and Chart of Accounts and Taxonomy Software

Part 3: How to do it, Case Studies and White Papers and other References

Example General Ledger Manual

Business Process -- Irrelevant, Distracting and Dangerous

The RIGHT Approach

Custom Strategic Software Design and Oversight of Construction

Standards for Custom Software Specification

What IS Software?

IT Effectiveness

Organizing Outlook

Critical Factors for I.T. Success

A Moral and Ethical Dilemma -- Systems that Fail

Case Studies examining Business Information System failures

The BBC Digital Media Initiative Debacle

The Bridgestone -- IBM Conflict

Speaking and Training

Showcase of Conference Presentations

Most Viewed Presentations

Briefings and Seminars

Why your ERP/BIS is NOT delivering and HOW to FIX it

ERP and IT Procurement that Delivers Results

The Critical Factors for IT and ERP Investment Success

Other Seminars

Conferences and Public Presentations

Conferences 80 to 99 -- 2009 to Present

Conferences 60 to 79 -- 2005 to 2009

Conferences 40 to 59 -- 1996 to 2005

Conferences 20 to 39 -- 1994 to 1996

Conferences 01 to 19 -- 1989 to 1994

On-Line Seminars (Webinars)

Webinar on Preparing and Presenting Webinars

Contacting James A Robertson and Associates Limited